controvertious topic verbatem

Ollie (devil’s advocate)

Evie (Shut down by Indy consistently)

Indy ( is Indy)

I: OK, plastic surgery

O: Only if necessary for medical – like deformities and things

I:

E:i mean, some people like boobs (giggles)

I: Ollie, you suck! I think you can do whatever the hell you want with your body, it’s up to you.

E: Er…

O: Have you seen the fails that people have

E: Yeah?

I: You mean like this one?

E:

O: Yeah like that!

I: Well they did that to themselves! And that’s okay.

O:well some people end up looking like pandas and they have beautiful faces.

It’s just this contrived thing that the elitist in the world are trying to…

I: But this, but this makes them feel better, this makes them-

O: who says that they get excessive plastic surgery to the point of breaking

I: Have you seen about, like… What about, what about like… what about like plastic surgery for like, male to female, female to male.

O:yeah that’s great, that’s what I mean by medical reasons

I: That’s not medical reasons. That’s because they feel like that’s who they are.

O: well then that’s a completely different topic, I’m talking about beauty, beauty versus change in gender

E: It’s pretty much the same, Ollie, if you feel like who you are has huge lips, then you want huge lips. (To self) If you feel like who you are has a big butt, then you want a big butt

I: Or little insecurities that bother you every single day until you cannot live with it. They are totally fixable with just like, one little injection.

E: So some people do like… Oooooh nooo! You are recording this, right?

I: (Inaudible)

E:

O:

I: Some people do like boobs! (giggles)

E:

O:

I: Oh, what did I say after that?

E:

O:

I: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Lalalalalalalalalallllllllll. Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! Ollie!

E:Shhhhh, Indy, listen to what he is saying first

O:

I: Errrrrr…

E: How many minutes?

O:

I: No it’s not, it’s 14.

E: We do this a lot

O:

I: No.

E:

O:

I: I would just like to, I would. (Teacher talks) I would just like to point out that (Pause) people who get plastic surgery, they take all of this into consideration. They’re like, “would I rather ahve this hematonin blood pocket,” um… What was I talking about

E: Orrr would they rather have a kewt nose job

O:

I: Yeah, a cute nose job and potentially get this hematoma thing or would I rather not get hematoma which is probably a thing I could get anyway and not have a cute nose.

E: Look, Ollie, it’s like risking for…

O:

I: That’s not true, that’s not real. (Pause: Looks at photos) That’s not real either, these are all photoshopped.

O: Can you prove that?

I: Yes!

O: (Typing)

I: Go back to Caitlyn Jenner

O: Who’s that? (Typing)

I: That one, that one.

O: This one?

Pause, Indy pulls out phone.

I: This is Caitlyn Jenner now.

O: You can see a difference, though.

I: She’s old! She’s gotten old!

O: Um…

I: She was a man.

O: Okay, “people who undergo breast surgery may experience contouring or asymmetry problems, or those undergoing, um, facial surgeries don’t,  simply don’t like the result.”

I: Okay, okay, show me that picture you had before.

O: So, this one… Or, this one?

I: Lindsay Lohan. Does not look like that.

E: Ok, so…

I: Kim Kardashian, she NEVER looked like that. ‘Cause that’s her mario pallet, and she only got that in the last couple of years, and she hasn’t gotten any plastic surgery in the last couple of years. I watch TOO MUCH ‘KEEPING UP WITH THE KARDASHIANS’ for you to fool me with this bull****!

E: (Laughs)

O: You clearly do. Um… I think: plastic surgery for gender change, sure, and sex change, yes. Gender, err, sorry, err. Surgery for those who have severe, or, um otherwise, err… Deformities on their body. And for those who have it for other medical or, like emotional reasons. But if you say, “I think my nose is a little bit too small, I’m just gonna tweak it this way and I’m gonna do it like this and I’m gonna lift my face and I’m gonna do all this stuff,” and it’s not actually healthy to obsess over those kind of things-

I:  But you don’t have to be obsessed…

O: -you have to be grateful with the face that you’ve been given, and the body that you’ve been given.

E: Yeah, but-

I:  I don’t know if I can be friends with you-

E: Ollie…

I: -after you talk about this!

E: Okay, look, Ollie, Ollie.

I: You, said you- wait, Ollie, Evie.

E: Stop, no no.

I: Evie, Evie, shhhh…

E: Da, daaaaargh!

I: Err, Ollie. You genuinely believe that if someone is not happy with their body that they should just leave it like that.

O: You’re always taught that, that, just be happy with what you’ve been err… given, like.

I: But no! That’s not how it is! You don’t like something, you find a way to fix it! Probl-

Audio cuts out due to Indy’s phone overheating (likely from the heat of the argument).


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